He was a great admirer of Jinnah [Mohammad Ali Jinnah], but then he started talking about the disparities between the two wings of Pakistan. I guess, Pakistan, he said -- he began slowly he converted himself to separatism in that sense he thought that no I mean it will not be possible to be together. So I remember I had told him once that we divided the country once, and we don't know if that division had been quite logical, so we can't think of another division, but that was one. Now, let us take the case of Ali Ahsan. Syed Ali Ahsan was a Pakistani supporter throughout, I mean, in the 40's, in the 50's, even in the 60's he had edited the Bengali version of Ayub Khan's autobiography and all that. So his faith in Pakistan shook up only in 1971, I would say after the elections and when the Pakistan Government refused to transfer power. Then he went with us to Kolkata and all that, and Syed Sajjad Hussain, his cousin, he had told Ali Ahsan's brother that Anisuzzaman must have brainwashed Ali Ahsan to have taken him to Calcutta.